We have confirmation of Jing Yuan's age range during Quintent era?

[cashew]

According to this post, patch 2.5 confirmed Jing Yuan was <100 years old during Quintet era. tanithryudo, can you confirm or deny this claim? Is this a thing? Am I going to have to re-think my fanfic?!

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[tanithryudo]

No specific numbers were given this patch. What it did show...

We already knew these events before the patch:

1. ~700 years ago, Belobog was under attack by the Antimatter Legion. About 30 years later, Alissa Rand made a wish on the Stellaron which flash froze the planet and cut it off from the rest of the cosmos.

2. 721 years ago, the Sedition of Imbibitor Lunae happened on 7379

All that the flashback from the wardance event showed was that:

* Sometime after Belobog was under attack by the Antimatter Legion, and before it was cut off from the cosmos, Igor Haft left the planet and participated in a bunch of fight tournaments under the sponsorship of the IPC. He did this to raise awareness of Belobog's plight and find people/factions willing to help them.

* The last tournament Igor participated in before returning to Belobog and joining the military efforts, was the wardance on the Luofu. At the time Jing Yuan was the ring defender (the role Yanqing took this latest wardance).

* Jing Yuan tells Igor the reason the Xianzhou can't help him is because they recently got reports from the Yaoqing of an Abundance buildup, and they will likely need to go help out there. So this also took place before the start of the Second Abundance War.

* Jing Yuan's appearance in his photo with Igor, he's shorter than his current full grown appearance. That is, not physically full grown yet.


So what this says about Jing Yuan's age at the time of the Second Abundance War would depend on the rate at which Xianzhou people mature physically. Does Jing Yuan being a head shorter mean he's under 100?

[tanithryudo]

BTW, I can't be bothered to find the earlier thread we had about Dan Heng's age possibly being around 30-50 years old... but today I was reading some threads and someone brought up this resource.

Notably, the 2nd letter is a request from the Preceptors to Jing Yuan demanding to release Dan Heng to them. The contents say that they've already tried writing to the Ten Lords Commission for a long time to no effect. And then, the footnotes from Jing Yuan's advisor say:

这几百年间，持明族递上来的请愿书得有上千份了…属这一封措辞最严厉，他们的耐心是到极限了吧。 青镞 留」「流放令已受十王司允准。既然丹枫已再世为人，不问前愆，为何龙师不能接受他远离这片是非之地…？耐人寻味。」

This "这几百年间" seems to indicate Dan Heng's age in to be at least 200+ years minimum, if not more. Because obviously, the Preceptors obviously couldn't have been demanding him back before hatching, or when he was still Dan Feng.

Secondly, there's a lyric "睁开眼，一人九万余夜" in Dan Heng's character OST《长梦应觉》, which if taken literally, equals ~250 years. Though...I'm not totally sure canon this song is.

Anyway, even just going by the first item, then it's highly unlikely that Yunhua's dosing Dan Heng with the memory recovery drug shouldn't have all that much to do with her exile. I mean, maybe it was old laundry brought up during her trial (under the table-wise, for her student not to know about it). But it shouldn't be anywhere near the primary reason for it.

Actually, maybe it's possible that Jing Yuan also didn't know about it at the time it happened, or at least, didn't know that Yunhua did it. And then it was when she was being attacked by her political rivals 30 years ago, that this matter actual came to light (for JY)?

Of course, there is also the possibility that the writers just forgot (or are retconning) the above lore, and have now decided that Dan Heng's age is in mere decades. *shrug*

[tanithryudo]

One more note about the Belobog timeline...

So looked back on the earlier Topaz continuance mission, the IPC records show

Bronya: Topaz shared with me the story of the Stellaron's descent upon Jarilo-VI — how the original outsiders stationed here foresaw the impending disaster and chose to leave in large numbers.
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Bronya: According to her account, the repayment period agreed upon by the Architects and the IPC investors was... 280 years. However, less than a century after the loan was taken out, the connection between Jarilo-VI and the rest of the galaxy was completely severed.

So this implies that from the time the Stellaron appeared, to when Belobog was cut off from the cosmos, that timespan wasn't immediate, but took a few decades to happen.

I've seen 70 years after the antimatter legion attacked / 50 years after the stellaron arrived thrown around in some threads, but haven't found the actual resource for it.

Still, if you assume that Igor could've returned at any time before contact was lost, and that the current calendar starts after all contact was lost, I guess you could still squeeze a potential few decades in there wrt to Jing Yuan's age.