> I don't think we can discount Jing Yuan's involvement in both phases of the aftermath.
I guess there is too little exact details of the time to really say what exactly happened. Which is honestly part of the details with the whole HCQ lore. Too much mystery and vagueness to the purpose of "suspense" with no payoff because either the writers haven't though out the details that much, or want to leave room for future writing, or whatever. -_-
> Well that depends on whether all 7 arbiter-generals are meant to be good guys... Not having seen the full 2.5 patch, it's hard for me to discount the possibility the corruption goes to the highest level.
It's theoretically possible, but the gist I am getting is that the arbiter-generals are pretty much on one side. That is, the marshal has the ultimate authority to assign the position, and can do so even over objections from other parties, and thus is likely to assign people who align with her. Of course, that still leads to possibility of later changes of heart or corruption (such as if Feixiao was successfully possessed by the Crimson Moon this time)...
But I also expect that all 7 generals will eventually all become playable characters. Yes, even Zhuming, all they need is for Huaiyan to step down again and a new person be assigned into his slot. So they all need to be either good guys, or at least, not "bad" enough to be irredeemable.
From the story so far, though, it currently sounds like the Ten Lords is set up as being the "bad" guys in this case. Or at least, the opposing political faction to the Arbiter Generals. The fact that the writers seem to refuse going into any details about how exactly that department is structured and who the heck the "old guys" are involved, though, seems to imply they haven't really planned further than that. -_-
> This presumes the rest of the preceptors are sane.
A faction of the Luofu preceptors have obviously gone nuts after the Sedition, triggered by the successful creation of Bailu and the loss of the full high elder inheritance after Dan Feng. I mean, with Taoran it's kind of obvious he's gone nuts. The real question is if this is something that is local to just the Luofu, or if the sentiment is also present among the Vidyadhara leadership of other ships.
This patch we do have Jing Yuan implying that the high elder of the Fang Hu, at least, is still loyal to the Xianzhou's alliance, and he expects him/her to come down hard on Taoran, which is why he's kicking the case over there to be tried instead of locally on the Luofu. We also have Lingsha to go by as the student of the high elder from the Zhu Ming, and he also seems to be on the Xianzhou's side. So that's only 2 other high elders we haven't heard of at this point.
> One possible (better) reason is that this is part of the bargaining.
Sure, but the fact that Taoran thinks he has enough chips to bargain his sentence to the same level as with Dan Feng/Dan Heng... I mean, Dan Feng likely didn't argue on behalf of himself. So any bargaining done on his behalf by others probably used the fact of his multiple generations of loyal guardianship of the Arbor to mitigate his sentence.
Taoran, what has he contributed? His implication seems to be he has enough dirt to eventually exchange for a lighter sentence. The amount of dirt he'd need to have to be equivalent... would imply a lot of bad things about the conspiracy behind him (and dude, if this whole patch was Jing Yuan trying to weed out the bad eggs in his government, just stopping at Taoran when there is obviously more corruption behind him, just...I don't want to say failure, but it doesn't feel like it's a success, IMO)
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Date: 2024-09-11 15:38 (UTC)I guess there is too little exact details of the time to really say what exactly happened. Which is honestly part of the details with the whole HCQ lore. Too much mystery and vagueness to the purpose of "suspense" with no payoff because either the writers haven't though out the details that much, or want to leave room for future writing, or whatever. -_-
> Well that depends on whether all 7 arbiter-generals are meant to be good guys... Not having seen the full 2.5 patch, it's hard for me to discount the possibility the corruption goes to the highest level.
It's theoretically possible, but the gist I am getting is that the arbiter-generals are pretty much on one side. That is, the marshal has the ultimate authority to assign the position, and can do so even over objections from other parties, and thus is likely to assign people who align with her. Of course, that still leads to possibility of later changes of heart or corruption (such as if Feixiao was successfully possessed by the Crimson Moon this time)...
But I also expect that all 7 generals will eventually all become playable characters. Yes, even Zhuming, all they need is for Huaiyan to step down again and a new person be assigned into his slot. So they all need to be either good guys, or at least, not "bad" enough to be irredeemable.
From the story so far, though, it currently sounds like the Ten Lords is set up as being the "bad" guys in this case. Or at least, the opposing political faction to the Arbiter Generals. The fact that the writers seem to refuse going into any details about how exactly that department is structured and who the heck the "old guys" are involved, though, seems to imply they haven't really planned further than that. -_-
> This presumes the rest of the preceptors are sane.
A faction of the Luofu preceptors have obviously gone nuts after the Sedition, triggered by the successful creation of Bailu and the loss of the full high elder inheritance after Dan Feng. I mean, with Taoran it's kind of obvious he's gone nuts. The real question is if this is something that is local to just the Luofu, or if the sentiment is also present among the Vidyadhara leadership of other ships.
This patch we do have Jing Yuan implying that the high elder of the Fang Hu, at least, is still loyal to the Xianzhou's alliance, and he expects him/her to come down hard on Taoran, which is why he's kicking the case over there to be tried instead of locally on the Luofu. We also have Lingsha to go by as the student of the high elder from the Zhu Ming, and he also seems to be on the Xianzhou's side. So that's only 2 other high elders we haven't heard of at this point.
> One possible (better) reason is that this is part of the bargaining.
Sure, but the fact that Taoran thinks he has enough chips to bargain his sentence to the same level as with Dan Feng/Dan Heng... I mean, Dan Feng likely didn't argue on behalf of himself. So any bargaining done on his behalf by others probably used the fact of his multiple generations of loyal guardianship of the Arbor to mitigate his sentence.
Taoran, what has he contributed? His implication seems to be he has enough dirt to eventually exchange for a lighter sentence. The amount of dirt he'd need to have to be equivalent... would imply a lot of bad things about the conspiracy behind him (and dude, if this whole patch was Jing Yuan trying to weed out the bad eggs in his government, just stopping at Taoran when there is obviously more corruption behind him, just...I don't want to say failure, but it doesn't feel like it's a success, IMO)