So I don't think it would be surprising if he got the best medical services available, leading to a spry body at even 70-80 years old.
Jingliu also used the phrase "百年之身", suggesting that, yes, the expected life expectancy for short lived is close to 100. Probably 90+ given how senescence affects human. Fine motor control, however, will probably start fading around the 70 year mark. Doesn't stop Yingxing from still being able to do the designing part of his job, but he's probably not building anything by that time.
靡靡赤龙，森森青松 / 六百余年凡尘中 / 如梦尽是空
Never got into explaining this Chinese bit previously，did I? Yeah, this is again a Chinese-fail, because the only thing this line proves is the average expectancy is 600+ years. (Probably low 600s given the average cycle falls between 500 and 600.) 六百余年 is used poetically, much like how the line from 《满江红·怒发冲冠》「三十功名尘与土，八千里路云和月」uses numbers as a metaphor for "lifetime" and "northern campaign". 三十 is because of the phrase "三十而立" (people are expected to establish a career by 30 years old) and 八千里 is a "long distance to travel", much like wishing someone 万岁 doesn't actually mean 10000 years life but rather immortality. Here, 六百余年 is used to describe a lifetime probably because that's on average the cycle length of 龙尊. The line is just saying "spent an entire life doing nothing", not "died at 600+ years old". Spending the majority of his lifespan in prison would definitely inspire this kind of lyrical lament, which further cements my belief in that 丹枫 was relatively young when he got imprisoned.
Did this guy reborn once soon after the Sedition, and then again after Dan Heng's rebirth (within the last century), and still hatched + grew up faster than Dan Heng?
I was thinking given Taoran has been using the memory potion and he even claims he looks monstrous due to messing around with illegal substances, is it possible the memory potion (plus whatever else 龙师 have been fucking around with) might have some side effects such as accelerating aging? Dunno.
But I think it's important to remember game graphics are a poor representation of the reality of the world. JRPGs (which clearly inspired HSR) don't bother to render every little detail. You have to use the dialogue to figure out what's happening in reality. Like the implication is Jing Yuan faints from bloodloss/injury, even though his in-game render looks exactly the same. Since HSR uses in-game models to render cutscenes (as opposed to animation), the visuals can't be interpreted as a 1-to-1 reproduction of the reality.
Like people thinking Jiaoqiu doesn't look banged up enough is an example of forgetting in-game models aren't the actual reality. It's not that he's not banged up, it's that the in-game graphics aren't rendering his battered body. (I see no reason why Jiaoqiu can't be up and walking after a few weeks when Jing Yuan is also walking around after severe bloodloss and having a hole punched through his chest. It's not like the guy's sprinting around perfectly healed. He's probably just taking a few steps into the courtyard for fresh air. Foxians might not have super healing, but we do know that they have super stem cells that can erase all the non-lethal damage dealt to them, it's how they remain perpetually youthful.)
My understanding is that Sword Champion goes to the person with the best swordsmanship ability on the ship. How that would be determined is likely via a tournament
Basically all the info is from Yanqing's story: 成为罗浮第一，不，是仙舟第一；摘取罗浮「剑首」，乃至联盟「剑魁」的冠称。 Not only do we know there's two titles (剑首、剑魁), but also that the title is a "冠称". Aka, it's a competition title, not a position. A lot of people use Jingliu's personal story where it's described as "荣任" (honorably take up the position) to mean that 剑首 is an actual official position, but I think in this case Jingliu is just old so her personal story descriptions use excessive metaphor (per classic Chinese), and it's just a very, very polite way of saying "crowned the winner".
All this to say that I think it's a) a title and b) probably requires defending and regaining whenever the challenge comes around. How it works, dunno, but I greatly doubt meeting Yingxing was Jingliu's first time being crowned Sword Champion. Given Yingxing has been waiting a while to gift his sword to the Sword Champion, it suggests that the challenge for the position comes around at the most frequent once a decade, probably even less than that. Hence why he wouldn't have given it to the previous Sword Champion since it's been a loooong time and, being an arrogant little fuck, Yingxing probably thinks whomever gets his sword as to prove themselves in his lifetime.
Hell, I can see this as part of the reason Jingliu says Yingxing doesn't respect anyone. Yingxing might have even told Jingliu he doesn't accept her "prior" claim to the title unless she proves herself again. (Obvious headcanon is obvious.)
From Yanqing's character lore, it sounds like that after Jingliu, there were people who could've have taken this Sword Champion position. But it's just that they didn't want the official title used after her anymore.
Is it possible the competition got suspended and that's why the "title" remained empty?
it's likely Jingliu and/or Dan Feng foisted the task off to Jing Yuan
I mean that is certainly the implication. But if we go with your teenage emo drama hypothesis, then it's entirely possible Dan Feng wasn't equipped to defend the ring, because he wasn't experienced enough yet. Like, what if...he was still too small to fight. Again, if we assume Dan Feng was not "super old" when he was arrested and is actually fairly young, then it's entirely possible at the time of the previous Wardance, Dan Feng just isn't physically up for taking on the job.
This I would think to be unlikely, unless she lost the position to someone else, and later regained the title.
If the title works like how sports titles work, you have to defend and get re-crowned champion. That's what I meant when saying "regained". Even in the case of a successful defense, it would still be called "crowned champion". Because technically the Champion title becomes "up for grabs" as soon as the competition starts and the previous Champion no longer "has the title" automatically. (Reference: basically any seasonal competition system such as Club Football, American Football, Olympics, etc. Essentially the title has an expiration date and is applied retroactively. Aka the "Champion" only applies to the season of the competition and doesn't carry to the future.)
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Date: 2024-09-22 01:11 (UTC)Jingliu also used the phrase "百年之身", suggesting that, yes, the expected life expectancy for short lived is close to 100. Probably 90+ given how senescence affects human. Fine motor control, however, will probably start fading around the 70 year mark. Doesn't stop Yingxing from still being able to do the designing part of his job, but he's probably not building anything by that time.
Never got into explaining this Chinese bit previously，did I? Yeah, this is again a Chinese-fail, because the only thing this line proves is the average expectancy is 600+ years. (Probably low 600s given the average cycle falls between 500 and 600.) 六百余年 is used poetically, much like how the line from 《满江红·怒发冲冠》「三十功名尘与土，八千里路云和月」uses numbers as a metaphor for "lifetime" and "northern campaign". 三十 is because of the phrase "三十而立" (people are expected to establish a career by 30 years old) and 八千里 is a "long distance to travel", much like wishing someone 万岁 doesn't actually mean 10000 years life but rather immortality. Here, 六百余年 is used to describe a lifetime probably because that's on average the cycle length of 龙尊. The line is just saying "spent an entire life doing nothing", not "died at 600+ years old". Spending the majority of his lifespan in prison would definitely inspire this kind of lyrical lament, which further cements my belief in that 丹枫 was relatively young when he got imprisoned.
I was thinking given Taoran has been using the memory potion and he even claims he looks monstrous due to messing around with illegal substances, is it possible the memory potion (plus whatever else 龙师 have been fucking around with) might have some side effects such as accelerating aging? Dunno.
But I think it's important to remember game graphics are a poor representation of the reality of the world. JRPGs (which clearly inspired HSR) don't bother to render every little detail. You have to use the dialogue to figure out what's happening in reality. Like the implication is Jing Yuan faints from bloodloss/injury, even though his in-game render looks exactly the same. Since HSR uses in-game models to render cutscenes (as opposed to animation), the visuals can't be interpreted as a 1-to-1 reproduction of the reality.
Like people thinking Jiaoqiu doesn't look banged up enough is an example of forgetting in-game models aren't the actual reality. It's not that he's not banged up, it's that the in-game graphics aren't rendering his battered body. (I see no reason why Jiaoqiu can't be up and walking after a few weeks when Jing Yuan is also walking around after severe bloodloss and having a hole punched through his chest. It's not like the guy's sprinting around perfectly healed. He's probably just taking a few steps into the courtyard for fresh air. Foxians might not have super healing, but we do know that they have super stem cells that can erase all the non-lethal damage dealt to them, it's how they remain perpetually youthful.)
Basically all the info is from Yanqing's story: Not only do we know there's two titles (剑首、剑魁), but also that the title is a "冠称". Aka, it's a competition title, not a position. A lot of people use Jingliu's personal story where it's described as "荣任" (honorably take up the position) to mean that 剑首 is an actual official position, but I think in this case Jingliu is just old so her personal story descriptions use excessive metaphor (per classic Chinese), and it's just a very, very polite way of saying "crowned the winner".
All this to say that I think it's a) a title and b) probably requires defending and regaining whenever the challenge comes around. How it works, dunno, but I greatly doubt meeting Yingxing was Jingliu's first time being crowned Sword Champion. Given Yingxing has been waiting a while to gift his sword to the Sword Champion, it suggests that the challenge for the position comes around at the most frequent once a decade, probably even less than that. Hence why he wouldn't have given it to the previous Sword Champion since it's been a loooong time and, being an arrogant little fuck, Yingxing probably thinks whomever gets his sword as to prove themselves in his lifetime.
Hell, I can see this as part of the reason Jingliu says Yingxing doesn't respect anyone. Yingxing might have even told Jingliu he doesn't accept her "prior" claim to the title unless she proves herself again. (Obvious headcanon is obvious.)
Is it possible the competition got suspended and that's why the "title" remained empty?
I mean that is certainly the implication. But if we go with your teenage emo drama hypothesis, then it's entirely possible Dan Feng wasn't equipped to defend the ring, because he wasn't experienced enough yet. Like, what if...he was still too small to fight. Again, if we assume Dan Feng was not "super old" when he was arrested and is actually fairly young, then it's entirely possible at the time of the previous Wardance, Dan Feng just isn't physically up for taking on the job.
If the title works like how sports titles work, you have to defend and get re-crowned champion. That's what I meant when saying "regained". Even in the case of a successful defense, it would still be called "crowned champion". Because technically the Champion title becomes "up for grabs" as soon as the competition starts and the previous Champion no longer "has the title" automatically. (Reference: basically any seasonal competition system such as Club Football, American Football, Olympics, etc. Essentially the title has an expiration date and is applied retroactively. Aka the "Champion" only applies to the season of the competition and doesn't carry to the future.)