Jing Yuan finally tops, hurrah!
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cashewLocked in a room that can only open after sex trope. Emotional torture porn.
Pros:
Jing Yuan tops!
Biologically male bottom!Dan Feng!
Gentle emotional sex!
Emotionally torturing Jing Yuan for the entire PWP!
Talking awkwardly about feels and still not being able to resolve anything because they'll just forget about everything as soon as they leave the room!
Self-sacrificing Jing Yuan's biggest concern is making Dan Feng comfortable (both physically and emotionally)!
Dan Feng has no fucking clue what happens in the future but can tell Jing Yuan is suffering. Maaaaangst.
Metioning Jing Yuan's 300-years long military campaign backstory during the 721 year time gap. (I cannot find English references to this, so here in this Chinese article, screencaps show 青镞 explaining that Jing Yuan had to leave Mimi behind for 300 years after being sent out on a military campaign and, when he came back, an aged Mimi walked up to him and died in his arms. 〒▽〒 WTF miHoyo, what's your problem?! — But also, 300 YEAR MILITARY CAMPAIGN. So much angst!)
Cons:
- References to Jing Yuan being a kid during Quintet era... boo.
I...I like this fic. I can even forgive the minor drawbacks because holy shit, I love this emotional torture porn. Of course, the super tragic aspect is that despite the feelings being returned, all of this is will just get re-set back to the status quo, so no actual progression of the relationship.
Was it worth digging through literal hundreds of crappy fic for this? Um... I don't know but this fic makes me happy.
A slight follow up to the Mimi backstory: Since there's canon confirmation that Jing Yuan was leading a military campaign that lasted 300 years as the general, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that the Cloud Knights are actually kept pretty busy. If they're not defending themselves, then they're out there pre-emptively fighting something. So my headcanon persists that the "peaceful" years Luofu experienced is not "no active military campaigns" so much as "no invasions from enemies", but the Cloud Knights are engaged in a prolonged external war to keep the enemies at bay and too busy to organize an invasion of Luofu.
In other words, the Cloud Knights have been fighting this whole time. It's just the fighting was moved off of Luofu rather than taking place on Luofu while Jing Yuan was the general. It also makes more sense for the Xianzhou people to be in a relatively constant state of war, because why the hell else would they maintain such expensive war machines if they didn't have constant on-going military operations? Given the immensely high militarization of Luofu, it's hard to imagine they've been living "in peace". Also, I've noticed the Chinese descriptions actually never used "peace" to describe Luofu under Jing Yuan's leadership. They used things like "prosperity", "supremacy", or "stability".
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Date: 2024-07-10 13:03 (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-07-11 01:01 (UTC)The story about Yanqing was obviously meant as a set up to the punchline referencing Doraemon. There's no reason to believe she was doing anything but joking.
Meanwhile, the story about the lion is clearly referencing 忠犬ハチ公, a significantly more serious and a RL story.
Given the different references, I think we can extrapolate the seriousness/reliability of the two stories.
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Date: 2024-07-17 19:35 (UTC)By any chance can you find the corresponding Chinese lines for them?
“Qingzu: Counselor is a title in the Cloud Knights forces. We're in charge of strategic planning and processing information, helping the Captain make better decisions. I'm no great talent, but humbly hold the position of chief counselor.
Qingzu: But Jing Yuan is a meticulous and insightful general, so most of the time I'm left feeling like a handyman who just passes on intelligence.
Qingzu: But as a counselor, it's important to have a clear understanding about yourself. We're no match for Jing Yuan's intellect, but we help him out as much as we can and derive great meaning from this work.
Yutie: Nobody on the entire Luofu... No, nobody in the entire Xianzhou Alliance can really read the general's mind.”
Then there’s the character’s opinion
“Jingliu : Break the enemy's strategy, Jing Yuan — that's what you always did best.
Yukong: The general may behave slovenly, but he has plans for all the affairs of the Xianzhou.
Luocha: Not only is the general an expert in perceiving people's intentions, but he is also a master of the arts of concealment and showmanship. When he decides to "show" something, it's time to be careful.
Tingyun : The general is a true master of maximizing returns for minimal effort. I cannot match him on that front.”
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Date: 2024-07-18 08:32 (UTC)Couldn't find Qingzu and Yutie quotes, bc npc dialogue isn't collected rigorously. Here's the ones I found:
Jingliu : Break the enemy's strategy, Jing Yuan — that's what you always did best.
真怀念呀。同过去一样，破敌方略便交给你了，景元。
Yukong: The general may behave slovenly, but he has plans for all the affairs of the Xianzhou.
别看将军平时漫不经心，仙舟各项事务他心中自有斟酌。
Luocha: Not only is the general an expert in perceiving people's intentions, but he is also a master of the arts of concealment and showmanship. When he decides to "show" something, it's time to be careful.
将军不仅擅长洞察人心，还深谙「藏」和「露」的艺术，当他「露」出些什么时，便要小心了。
Tingyun : The general is a true master of maximizing returns for minimal effort. I cannot match him on that front.
要说四两拨千斤的手段，将军大人最是得其精髓，小女子自愧不如。
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Date: 2024-07-18 10:13 (UTC)After a couple more hours, I found a partial quote screencaps to
(Source: https://m.hupu.com/bbs/60249317)
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Date: 2024-07-18 16:51 (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-07-19 03:04 (UTC)I'm curious. What kind of vs thread would result in people collecting quotes about Jing Yuan? Who is he being pitted against?
(Also, I hear that mechanically he kind of sucks. So presumably this is talking about narrative power...)
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Date: 2024-07-19 04:54 (UTC)The general consensus is that in a 1 v 1 pure martial ability duel, Feixiao will likely win since Jing Yuan is noted for not being top level in martial arts talent. But in an army vs army fight, Jing Yuan will likely win as his thing is master strategist.
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Date: 2024-07-19 07:54 (UTC)Hasn't Jing Yuan also been in his position longer than almost every other general since the average general only manages to keep their position for like...100 years before getting killed one way or another? I feel like this isn't even a real debate. =.=
What I really want to know is if 飞霄 will be calling down a summons, too. From what I gathered, the summoning mechanic has really short-changed Jing Yuan from getting ahead in the damage department (due to the summons not benefiting from buffs), but if there's a second summons based damage dealer, maybe they'll start releasing units that boost summons speed/damage output and put Jing Yuan back on the map. (He's too cool to be left sitting in the dustbin! T_T)
But if she doesn't, then I'm buying into Jing Yuan is an emanator-level unit, since that would imply he's the sole general that can draw on the Aeon's powers (albeit tangentially). Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out once she's released.